tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7552277881796273856.post8144784128585367425..comments2021-10-12T22:38:41.417-04:00Comments on Eternal Optimist: SWINE FLU AND YOUraehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10808097290710098393noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7552277881796273856.post-11341174476761552962011-12-05T20:45:27.537-05:002011-12-05T20:45:27.537-05:00Swine Flu update, 12/5/2011: it was a fraud design...Swine Flu update, 12/5/2011: it was a fraud designed by large pharmaceutical companies to sell vaccines. The vaccines were useless, and the swine flu was less dangerous than ordinary seasonal flu.the eternal optimisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16148966860695390436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7552277881796273856.post-19157003056187578952009-09-04T09:15:53.470-04:002009-09-04T09:15:53.470-04:00An update: According the the Starting Point blog ...An update: According the the Starting Point blog on Yahoo, <br /><br />"The H1N1 flu, which is commonly known as the swine flu, has killed 2,837 people, Reuters reported. According to the World Health Organization, that number is up from 2,185 deaths reported on Aug. 28. To date, about a quarter of a million cases of H1N1 have been confirmed worldwide."<br /><br />It's puttering along.Chandlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09676084144752470680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7552277881796273856.post-49269075645014640372009-06-02T21:51:31.224-04:002009-06-02T21:51:31.224-04:00When you're in charge of the alarms, you ring ...When you're in charge of the alarms, you ring the alarm when a) you see smoke, and/or b) reports of fires are recieved from professionals in the field. The problem is not the CDC or WHO. What they did was alert health professionals that there was a new flu strain in the pipeline, and advised caution until its severity could be determined. The media screamed EVERYBODY PANIC. People responsible for public health on a local level freaked out over the hysteria and instituted ridiculous preventive measures as CYA -- they're worried about their jobs.<br />The media deserve scorn for selling fear. But they're whores because we buy what they're selling. A little common sense would go a long way.<br />And just out of curiosity, have you read And the Band Played On?jennygirltherathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901499815238309934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7552277881796273856.post-54789132483399697482009-06-02T21:01:30.247-04:002009-06-02T21:01:30.247-04:00P.S. We definitely agree that the fires were stok...P.S. We definitely agree that the fires were stoked too hot with this Swine Flu. My contention is that the CDC acted reasonably by issuing warnings and that the media did their utmost to create panic and sell it as the pandemic at our throats. The media (especially television), I have long contended, does everything in its power to keep us scared, keep us buying, keep us watching. The culture of fear reigns supreme in the US, and the Bush administration played that game as hard as it could. You are correct when you bring up the Boy Who Cried Wolf. But don't start blaming the Dems or the Obama administration (yet!). That's just silly.Chandlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09676084144752470680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7552277881796273856.post-34611914775415833642009-06-02T20:52:55.234-04:002009-06-02T20:52:55.234-04:00Sorry to keep at this, but once again, I am asking...Sorry to keep at this, but once again, I am asking you what you think the threshold should be for ringing the bell. If you are not willing to put it on the line and say how many people need to die or get infected before CDC et al should start issuing warnings, then you are simply a Monday morning quarterback and all your scorn and sarcasm are worth less than nothing. <br /><br />In fact, I notice in EO's posts something that pervades most conservative propaganda (and probably most liberal propaganda as well, but the Dems are in power so the conservatives are the guilty ones now): a deafening babble of attacks, sarcasm, and hatred accompanied by a deafening lack of ideas. I would love to see EO and other pundits accompany their diatribes with positive ideas or suggestions. Say, for every "That's so stupid" they present one cogent way to handle it better, one that takes the people into account (remember 'by the people, for the people?'), not just the commentator's cronies.<br /><br />Sounds crazy I know...Chandlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09676084144752470680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7552277881796273856.post-787797653113113662009-05-30T13:06:24.099-04:002009-05-30T13:06:24.099-04:00I do not think it is wise to ignore the flu. I th...I do not think it is wise to ignore the flu. I think it is unwise to yell "pandemic" and deliberately invoke the 1918 Flu Pandemic when the information available does not support the false alarm. By the time WHO yelled pandemic in late April the problem was already leveling off in Mexico. <br /><br />I understand a desire not to be "wrong" and fail to sound the alarm. My point is that there are serious costs to being "wrong" when you sound the alarm. People tend to ignore you next time. That's bad. <br /><br />When you are in charge of alarms, you have a moral responsibility to get it right. You can't slough it off by saying "no harm, no foul" when you ring the bell and you are wrong.the eternal optimisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16148966860695390436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7552277881796273856.post-77509874705391560892009-05-26T12:10:41.508-04:002009-05-26T12:10:41.508-04:00I think EO is being bit disingenuous here. I am by...I think EO is being bit disingenuous here. I am by no means suggesting that the current Swine Flu has become the pandemic that was feared (and yes, certainly fearmongered as well). <br /><br />I am suggesting that it is insane to wait until people are dropping like flies until an emergency is declared. As EO himself recalls, .75% of the US population died within a single year in 1918. Let's assume for a moment that something EO might call a 'real' disease entered the population now, something that might conceivably do that kind of damage. What would EO's advice to CDC etc. be for deciding that the threat is real? And what would EO's preference be for when alarm bells should start ringing? <br /><br />I am posing these as direct questions to EO, not just as oppurtunities for mockery of the current administration or scornful comparisons to past epidemiological events. I'd really like to know what you think.Chandlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09676084144752470680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7552277881796273856.post-57596022204131976772009-05-19T18:00:17.384-04:002009-05-19T18:00:17.384-04:00Thank you for the L. Ron Hubbard shout-out. As so...Thank you for the L. Ron Hubbard shout-out. As soon as I am done seeing my probation officer I will let you know more about all that.the eternal optimisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16148966860695390436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7552277881796273856.post-59666243183791616332009-05-19T11:50:00.000-04:002009-05-19T11:50:00.000-04:00Dear E,
How did the weekend go? Waiting to hear ab...Dear E,<br />How did the weekend go? Waiting to hear about your "furthering of your pharmaceutical experiments and enlightenment for the entire world." Did you know that Lafayette Ronald Hubbard, sci-fi author, wrote on the same quest? I will not attain any sort of "advanced universal enlightenment" even if I DO take his course! I have got way too much laundry to do!<br />Good luck on your quest!Mrs Bossyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15498165956789407843noreply@blogger.com